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Things I’d change about my chicken coop/run set-up

Posted by on Friday 26 October 2012 in chickens | 8 comments

This is probably more a pensive “avoid this next time” post than an actual to-do list, though I am going to try to come up with solutions in case I actually get enough energy to act.

The “lips” of the frame around the body of the coop and nest box

Our coop (which we bought flat-packed) is built around frames, if that makes sense, which means we have a 3cm lip around the bottom of the coop’s floor. If it was flat, without the raised lip, I could simply sweep the woodshavings off the edge into a bucket, but because of how its built, I have to shovel everything out instead. I think it would be easier to clean if I could sweep them straight out.

The problem is exacerbated in the nest boxes because not only has the lip being built up further, I don’t have space in which to maneouvre a shovel or brush. I line the nest boxes with newspaper before adding straw to make them easier to clean out but again, I think it would be easier to get properly clean if there wasn’t the lip.

Possible solutions
For the last couple of winters, I’ve been talking about fitting a fake floor in the main body of the coop, which would rest on the lip and have a layer of insulation under neither. I still might do this: I doubt it would be that much work and would have other benefits too (see below).

The nest boxes are a tougher problem to solve since there isn’t enough head room to add a fake floor. Not sure how I could solve that one.

Grooved flooring

The “frames” are covered with tongue-and-groove type wood, rather than flat single pieces of wood. It looks nice but the grooves in the floor collect a lot of dust and again, are a bit of a pain to clean out.

Possible solution
If I was fitting a fake floor as mentioned above, I’d use something smooth for the top/actual floor so it would be groove-free. If I don’t fit a fake floor, I could just fit a sheet of heavy-duty plastic over it instead.

Coop is really a bit big for the chickens we have/want

When we got our girls, we wanted flexibility so went for a slightly bigger coop than we thought we’d need. This coop officially can house about twelve birds, but I think ten would be pushing it. We don’t have enough room in the run for that many though, so our max is about eight, though we’re choosing to keep it at six for now. Having extra room in the coop isn’t a bad thing most of the time, and because it’s raised off the ground, it’s not taking up floor space (and is providing good shelter), but in winter, I think they’d benefit from it being a bit easier to keep cosy.

Possible solutions
The suspended floor would reduce the size a tiny bit. I could also add a fake ceiling underneath the peak of the coop (although still ensuring there is adequate ventilation). I think it’s fine for six though: if we were going to keep less than six, I think it might just be easier to replace the whole thing.

Lack of access to the “roof”

Because we live in a foxtastic neighbourhood, our run is enclosed with chicken wire. The roof is at different heights in different parts – higher around the coop (which is raised off the ground by nearly 2ft) so I can clean it out without bending over and lower for the rest of the run, since I don’t need to spend a lot of time in that bit and it makes it slightly less imposing — but neither part is really accessible. This is particularly a pain at this time of year – this whole post was inspired by my adventures trying to clear leaves off the wire this morning: I can sweep the lower side near the path but because the ground drops away around the run, nowhere else without potentially dangerous climbing. It was also a pain when I tried to add plastic sheeting to the roof last year to provide more dry spots – only achievable by climbing stunts that would have made John cry if he’d seen me doing them ;)

Possible solution
Add access hatches in key parts of the roof – it wouldn’t be *too* hard really, just cut out a section of chicken wire and replace it with a hinged frame.

The run keeps “sinking”

We built the run on “reclaimed land”, going down a steep hill (hence the “ground drops away” remark above). John’s dad built us a surround (with scrap wood and corrugated steel panels a neighbour just happened to be skipping – win!) and we infilled it with rubble from our house renovations happening at the time. That was all topped with scrap carpet and layers and layers of wood chips. The woodchips are great – the chickens love scratching through them and they soak up a lot of the poo smell too. Needless to say – and as expected – the whole thing has settled, sunk and composted. We can keep adding more woodchips (and we do) but I can’t help wonder if we had built it on more solid ground, whether the chips would last longer before needing replenishing. We’d also be in a stronger position to treat it as a “deep litter” run – at the moment, it would be difficult and awkward to dig out all the lovely rich compost.

Possible solutions
None really, unless we could get hold of a time machine or fancied a full rebuild (no!). Definitely a lesson for next time though.

If you’ve got chickens, is there anything you’d like to change about your set-up? Or any lessons you’ve learnt that you’d like to pass on?

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  1. Tanya @ Lovely Greens

    Interesting post…especially for us who have just built our chicken run this year. We too have a covered run and thank goodness the hedge nearby is evergreen! We could probably get up top to clean it but it seems like a real mission.

    The biggest issue with our set-up is definitely the flat-pack coop. The original roosting bars are too low and the one we built a bit higher seems too high. Only 1/3 hens uses it. The nest box on the other hand is raised above the bars so of course the other two crowd into it and sleep in ‘nesting position’ all night. This means we have to clean the poo out of the box regularly and our eggs are generally a bit mucky.

    • j stone

      The one thing that I really like to use instead of purchasing wood chips to keep the coop and run smell down, is to use saw dust.

      COOP SMELLING SOLUTION: When I use my saws, I sweep up the dust and put it on the coop floor. It is like a desert land now. It soaks up all the liquid, and petrifies the poop. It does not smell.(and it is extra good for the compost/garden)

      I have seen ads in the paper from local woodworkers that will sell it to people for their cow/horse bedding.

      Note: The wood I’m cutting is not chemically treated.

      • louisa

        We do throw any sawdust etc into the run – every little helps – but we just don’t generate enough to only use that, even when sawing logs for our woodburners. We get our wood chips from the council – it’s £10 for a trailer full, which works out about a tonne, or free if picked up a couple of dustbins at a time. The biggest cost to us isn’t the financial one but the physical one – carrying it all down the many, many stairs to Fort Chicken!

  2. saah

    I have nothing useful to help with hens. I’m just very very jealous- I’d love hens :-)

    I hope you don’t mind I have tagged you in an 11 blog tag here http://littlefamilyof3-sarah.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/11-blog-tag.html x

  3. Be

    Our hens have Lino on the floor of one of their coops. That one is much easier to clean.
    Really enjoying reading your blog<3
    Be

  4. Kerstin@ChickenCoopAtHome

    Hi Louisa! Your post on “what you ought not to do” in building chicken coops will certainly help us in our final plans of building a coop. Surely we learn from our mistakes, but the luckier ones like me learn from “other people’s mistakes:)Thank you for that great tip on using sawdust on the coop floor. It makes sense in controlling poop smell controlling other liquid.

  5. Gina

    We had a similar problem with dust in our nest boxes and found a portable vacuum cleaner helped a lot – it is also good for getting into the crevices that mites might like when doing a full clean out.

  6. Maz

    Could you use a plane to make the lip, or a section of it – enough to sweep out, level with the coop floor?

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